ArticlesBlog Trump Pulling FEMA Money For Border Wall As Puerto Rico Braces For Storm | Velshi & Ruhle | MSNBC October 17, 2019100 Related tags : Ali Velshi Breaking News Business current events Democratic Strategist donald trump fema donald trump puerto rico FEMA fund florida health liberal msnbc MSNBC live nbc news News news coverage Political Consultant Politics pop culture progressive puerto rico fema Republican Political Stephanie Ruhle storm dorian florida top stories Trump administration trump tweets University of Texas us news Velshi & Ruhle wall construction weather World News Post navigation Previous Article University Vice President sees report as building block to strengthen PSU foundation Next Article (Eng sub)[Korean Reaction + Remix] French Montana – Writing on the Wall ft. Post Malone, Cardi B Comments (100) August 28, 2019 at 11:07 pm What is comprehensive immigration reform? If this is cruel, why refuse to fund border detention centers and immigration courts? Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:08 pm Does Trump even understand that Puerto Rico is part of America? Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:08 pm trump is out of control and unfit. Why is he taking FEMA money for a wall that Mexico is paying for? Where is that Check from Mexico.? SAVE AMERICA FIRE TRUMP Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:09 pm YOU KNOW IF PUERTO RICO NEEDS MONEY AGAIN FOR ANOTHER HURRICANE MAYBE THEY SHOULDN'T BE PART OF THE UNITED STATES. AND IF THEY NEED MONEY HOW ABOUT THEY GO BACK AT THOSE LEFT-WING PEOPLE THAT STOLE THE MONEY FROM 2017. Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:12 pm Here is a great story about Puerto Rico and democrats https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/27/democrats-trump-puerto-rico-debt/ there are even better stories out there involving Hillary and Puerto Rico as well, look them up. Lets not forget the Haiti stories with the clintons, https://newspunch.com/clintons-named-hait-child-trafficking-testimony/ Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:19 pm Trump thinks he can get away with anything…… oh wait, he can ….. Moscow Mitch and crackhead Pelosi aren't going to do anything Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:21 pm Wonder if Trump plans to attend the clean up event after to throw paper towels at the crowds again. 2020 cannot come soon enough! Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:22 pm NOW, IT'S like this, you broke a leg and it's healing, HEREComes Moron trump and wack' s you with a bat on same leg. Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:33 pm I see the Grand Dragon is at it again Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:34 pm See u people in the comment section have been Brainwashed and dumbdowned by fake Lying news media msnbc,CNN Because your CLUELESS,u don't even realize that 94 BILLION DOLLARS that Trump sent puerto Rico last yr for the other hurricane that money was STOLEN BY A CORRUPT GOVERNMENT AND THE CORRUPT DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS SO STOP BASHING OUR PRESIDENT FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING. WHY SHOULD HE SEND BILLIONS MORE TO BE STOLEN AGAIN.U PEOPLE BELIEVE ANYTHING FAKE LYING NEWS MEDIA SAYS WITH O FACTS O EVIDENCE,U JUST BELIEVE THERE GARBAGE. GOD SAID I WILL SEND THEM A STRONG DELUSION THAT THEY SHALL BELIEVE THE LIES.GOD SENT U PEOPLE A STRONG DELUSION AND U PROVED IT. Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:35 pm A total lunatic… WAKE UP REPUBLICANS, you cant put your head in the sand about the mad man you elected… Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:36 pm this is for people in the comment section. GOD SAID I WILL SEND THEM A STRONG DELUSION THAT THEY SHALL BELIEVE THE LIES.YOUR COMMENTS PROVE IT EVERY DAY ,U BELIEVE THE LIES OF THE FAKE LYING NEWS MSNBC AND CNN. Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:38 pm Shoulda given Trump money for the wall when asked. Quit the crying, it’s been nothing but whining for 3 stinking years. I’m an ashamed once loyal Democrat, this “new party” needs to stop….Truth. Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:44 pm Mexico is paying for a virtual wall. Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:48 pm Build the wall!!!! #MAGA2020 Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:51 pm He said 92 BILLION not 92 million!! He is such a liar. Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:58 pm Not a good look for Trump. Reply August 28, 2019 at 11:58 pm Obama does the same thing Democrats are quite. Trump does it and liberals flip out Reply August 29, 2019 at 12:16 am Best President ever 💪 💪 Reply August 29, 2019 at 12:16 am If Trump's precious bed bug infested Doral golf course gets hit buy a hurricane you bet FEMA will be in there doing all kinds of expensive work Trump's corrupt Reply August 29, 2019 at 12:17 am LISTEN UP FLORIDA! Dorian is CAT 3 on it's way to you! Good luck getting ANY money from FEMA… CAUSE CON DON STOLE IT!!!! Reply August 29, 2019 at 12:23 am If this dude gets elected this year am just gonna be shocked to be honest Reply August 29, 2019 at 12:23 am Telling others to commit a crime so he can pardon them should definitely move him to the fast track of impeachment! He is reliant that America has attention deficit. He wants us to forget El Paso, Dayton, rising trillions of deficit, keeping kids in detention longer than 20 days, etc… Reply August 29, 2019 at 12:26 am “I know more about building walls than anybody else, believe me.”2015 Donald J. TrumpTrumps Wall Estimates in interviews: 2015 $6 Billion 2,000 Miles. = $3 Million / Mile2016 $8 Billion 1,000 Miles. = $8 Million / Mile2017 $12 Billion 700 Miles = $17 Million / Mile2018 $18 Billion 316 miles = $57 Million / Mile A Trump wall around your 1 acre property (834 feet) would cost $9,015,840. 2016, Engineers in El Paso estimated that a 20' wall will cost around $25-$50 billion. Trumps wants a 50’ wall. Property Acquisition.The Government must first acquire the land mostly private property owned by thousands of individuals. Hundreds of Judges and courts und US paid attorneys will be tied up for 8 years average disputing the land appropriation. Lawyers estimate the backlog will take 20 years. The legal fees will likely exceed the property values. Laws.Congress must re-write or bypass 30 laws to accomplish the construction.Hundreds of attorneys and their staff will hash this out for years at taxpayer expense. Materials.A 20' wall would contain over three times the amount of concrete used to build the Hoover Dam, spread out over thousands of miles in remote terrain, deserts, rivers and rugged mountains without roads. Around 15 million yards of concrete and 5 billion pounds of rebar is the estimate. 400-600 concrete plants need to be setup along the border. Logistics.Soil engineers must survey the route (drill sample cores) before they can design the foundations for the wall and roads. Texas has 1,500 over different soil conditions.Engineers must first, plan/design and build 2,000 miles of roads that can handle the 52 million trips of heavy trucks.Terrain that prohibits construction like a floodplain, tributaries, mountains or rivers will see the costs skyrocket. The road will cost more than the wall. Not to mention the yearly maintenance on the road. Destroying Businesses, Landowners, Towns & Environment.The Rio Grande river is the natural border between the two countries. The river changes course often.The wall has to be constructed well inside the US boundary so essentially, US citizens, land owners, farmers, ranchers and our animal friends are going to find their access to Americas 5th largest waterway inaccessible. 1,200 miles of valuable waterfront property blocked.Private landowners, municipalities and national parks will be forced to abandon hundreds of thousands of riverfront acres. Environment.Millions of US citizens and animals will suddenly not have access to the Rio Grand, recreation, drinking water and feeding areas.Realistically, environmental issues will slow down work to a grinding halt that drag thru the courts for years & years. Attorneys will debate this for years at taxpayer expense. Bureaucracy/Security. Without guards, the wall is a farce. Plan for a guard post every 1,000' or so. About 10,560 guard posts. About $1.5 billion. Every post would need at least 2 on duty with 3 shift a day. Thousands of tributaries, bridges, rivers, culverts, and floodplains will need 24/7 guards too since the Mexicans could scurry thru the gaps. Estimate 95,000 full time guards with full benefit and retirement. Around $7 billion per year.A security headquarters every 25 miles, each overseeing 100 guard posts. About 3,000 staff there.Will need a fleet of choppers and aircraft necessary so we need 20-30 airfields, pilots, fuel stations runways, and hangers. Every 100 miles you need a government building with 75 people doing the paperwork. Thats about 1,500 paper shufflers.Each State will need a huge main wall management headquarters.And a large building in DC to manage the wall with 2,000 staff might be a good estimate. About $6 billion per year for the staff with full retirement benefits. Maintenance.Around 10% of the walls initial cost will be allocated every year for maintenance.2,000 miles. Maintenance centers every 50 miles sounds about right. Around 40 facilities with lots of trucks and heavy equipment, warehouses etc. Probably 4,000 staff.$10 billion every year is the estimate to maintain a small 20' wall. Cost overruns.The above estimate is for a 20' high wall. Trumps wall will be double that.A 50' high wall needs bigger foundations, bigger equipment, more staff etc. will double the costs to over $100 billion to build the wall. Realistically, will a wall stop them? Will a Mexican Drug Kingpin just give up his million$ enterprise because there is a wall? If there is one gap or just one crooked official, Police/Army General or Politician or somebody selling 51' ladders. Reply August 29, 2019 at 12:27 am He said I like Greenland better than Puerto Rico, that is why we should buy Greenland, no Mexicans in Greenland. Reply August 29, 2019 at 12:39 am as a card carrying bigot, he of course hates NYoricans and Puerto Rico in general… Reply August 29, 2019 at 12:41 am Pelosi won't do sh*t.She's an ineffectual wimp. Reply August 29, 2019 at 12:42 am surprise,surprise!! Reply August 29, 2019 at 12:55 am so what is the 4.6 billion Pelosi GAVE trump being used for? lol hilarious Reply August 29, 2019 at 1:11 am If Nancy really gave a crap she'd impeach the mfr! Present all the evidence that's there without a doubt, then Congress, the Senate in particular, will have to publicly denounce or defend the CRIMINAL in the White House! And pence will go down with him! Reply August 29, 2019 at 1:21 am So Trump is trampling on Congress's "power of purse". Didn't he just get the go-ahead for that from "his" Supreme Court? If so, why aren't the reporters mentioning that?Sorry Americans, but your Constitution is a piece of garbage. Shameless criminals have taken over the White House, the Senate, and the Justice System – from Attorney General Bill "Constipation of Justice" Barr to the Supreme Rapists Court.. Trump violates at least one law every day, and promises pardon to his minions if they do the same. And your "wonderful" Constitution actually protects them! LOL Reply August 29, 2019 at 1:22 am I remember that hurricanes always seem make landfall in the middle of the night…….My thoughts are with you. Reply August 29, 2019 at 1:23 am Dorian is the 3rd storm to hit Puerto Rico in 2 years.Irma, Maria and now Dorian. Reply August 29, 2019 at 1:24 am What can the American voters do? Go to the ballot box and vote your conscience and heart. If you do POTUS 45 would be turned out with McConnell, Graham and later Cruz Reply August 29, 2019 at 1:24 am Oh no. Are we gonna have to see him throw paper towels again? Reply August 29, 2019 at 1:24 am Puerto Ricans have bee citizens of the United states for about 100 years. Reply August 29, 2019 at 1:26 am To Trump, any non-white leader is corrupt Reply August 29, 2019 at 1:45 am It seems like he’s putting Puerto Rico against the asylum seekers Reply August 29, 2019 at 1:49 am Of course they were first. They are so prejudiced that they are called by a democrat as soon as they have something to spin. Reply August 29, 2019 at 1:52 am Why can't we make Puerto Rico a state like we did Hawaii ? It's about time. Reply August 29, 2019 at 1:53 am Anyone in tornado alley that thinks Puerto Ricans aren't citizens and not deserving of equal treatment should have the same fate bestowed on them. Good luck this tornado season! Reply August 29, 2019 at 1:57 am France should buy Puerto Rico and put a missile base on it. Reply August 29, 2019 at 2:07 am Just drop a nuke before it hits an island The don say's it'll all be fine! WAy TOO MANY NAY SAYERS on this channel!!!!!!. Reply August 29, 2019 at 2:08 am Life means nothing to Trump only his family's Reply August 29, 2019 at 2:16 am More distractions at the expense of Americans! Let it reveal itself! Wouldn't surprise us if he's doing it to place angst against Americans here that have families in Puerto Rico or create another crisis for him to fix(?). Still the poor little rich boy! Reply August 29, 2019 at 2:27 am This is straight up illegal. Congress is the only one who possess the authority to decide how money is allocated. Reply August 29, 2019 at 2:29 am $ saved from less illegal draining costs go back into FEMA budget. Reply August 29, 2019 at 3:03 am OMG! Sad Reply August 29, 2019 at 3:04 am Impeachment Reply August 29, 2019 at 3:04 am Jeezus, he’s such a tool. This fake president is a low point in US History and the world will be a better place when he slithers away Reply August 29, 2019 at 3:15 am Come On, your 1% owners need more money! Just think of all your 1% corporate masters can steal, I mean make with their private SS Camps. Looking up babies, better than your pot smoking kids! Piggies need more money! Reply August 29, 2019 at 3:19 am Yeah and the storm was a dud so this is more fear mongering from MSNBC.. It sounds like they are disappointed that it was a dud! Reply August 29, 2019 at 3:32 am It is tragic, really why don't you say, let's talk about what is being done to stop this, who is taking control of stopping this Moron, so he can do anything he wants, he can just order then why do we even need the House and Senate along with Congress, they are useless. Useless no need for anyone that will not stop this Narcissist. Reply August 29, 2019 at 3:38 am Hopefully Dorian will wipe Mar a Lago off the map. Reply August 29, 2019 at 3:45 am OK so I hate trump let me preface that….but the title says its for "the border wall" then the money is being pulled for "immigration crisis"Trump lies all the time…..I know that…but lets not stoop his level with false titles. And no….we should not be taking money away from Hurricane disaster states Reply August 29, 2019 at 4:10 am A tweet is the best she can do????!!!! Reply August 29, 2019 at 4:31 am But Mexico is paying for the wall lmao what a lier Reply August 29, 2019 at 4:42 am His nose should be stretching completely around the globe by now Reply August 29, 2019 at 4:48 am So crossing the Border is profitable if you do it illegally..Is that right ?? Reply August 29, 2019 at 5:21 am Aww they're spending money on the illegals, too bad that's what Democrats want. Reply August 29, 2019 at 5:36 am We already know he has no conscience or empathy, so…same old, same old here. Not that it makes me any less angry about how selfish and mean he is, to say the least. Having him as president is so stressful and anxiety-provoking. The sooner he’s gone, the better. I can’t wait!!!! Reply August 29, 2019 at 6:11 am I can give you a great many more lies you can spread about the President. I think of them sometimes, and they are a lot better than yours. Hahahaha hahahaha. I have some conspiracy theories as well better than your lame games. You have the money….I have the dirt!!! Hahahaha Reply August 29, 2019 at 6:36 am Just in time for the hurricane. Such a genius Reply August 29, 2019 at 7:37 am I bet those Greenlanders are having second thoughts. They could be looking forward to basking in the famous Trump largesse, as seen extended here towards Puerto RIco…. Reply August 29, 2019 at 8:50 am All of that hatred will come back on Trump. His family will have to live with the legacy of their father long after he's gone. Reply August 29, 2019 at 10:36 am Goodbye America. 'Twas nice knowing you. Reply August 29, 2019 at 1:42 pm Forget all the other names you call Trump and this administration, the one that works the best simply it is "EVIL". Reply August 29, 2019 at 2:04 pm Same thing Obama did!!!! More money than Trump is,democrats lackeys!!! Reply August 29, 2019 at 2:08 pm so mxo don't pay for wall, so trump robs it from USA people lol this man is sick a joke who the hole world hates he is going bring the US to a point of no return Reply August 29, 2019 at 2:19 pm Im a saying a prayer for all US people that they make it true this Trump-putin showand pray to god china russia iran Nk don't all gang up and att the US main land Must be on there mines givein the weakness thats in the WH now Reply August 29, 2019 at 3:08 pm Hi Trumpettes. Even when Trump had full control of both House and Senate he Failed to get funding for his wall. He claimed Mexico would pay for it and it would be easy to make them. He Failed to do that. Not one single mile of new wall has been built under Trump. The only work that has been done is renovating and upgrading security on existing wall. And the funding for most of this was put through by Obama and even W Bush. Trump has utterly Failed on his signature campaign promise. Reply August 29, 2019 at 4:23 pm Well, they had overflowing chemical dumps during Hurricane Harvey, but it's o.k. if you don't drink the water or take a shower or otherwise expose yourself to it. He is an enemy of the environment, get it? Reply August 29, 2019 at 4:27 pm Don't they have any of the paper towels left?… Donald gave them loads, and had a funny photo-op Reply August 29, 2019 at 5:10 pm A precondition to being a bad guy is that you have to be intelligent and if you are intelligent you don't have to be a bad guy. Reply August 29, 2019 at 5:13 pm Wtf is Speaker Pelosi doing? Is she powerless? Reply August 29, 2019 at 6:49 pm No one cares about Puerto Rico. Their own governments has ruined them . The U.S. needs to worry about actual citizens -with voting rights, that pay full taxes and not "colonial subjects." Reply August 29, 2019 at 6:57 pm Maybe Trump can swap Puerto Rico for Greenland? Reply August 29, 2019 at 7:18 pm 😩 Congress will do nothing for Puerto Rico. Reply August 29, 2019 at 8:01 pm What is the point of having a opposition leader when they can't do sweet FA. The orange turd tell so many lies avoid showing his taxes tell people to do illegal things promote his bed bug cockroach overpriced venue and yet still nothing what is the flipping point in reporting this ? If this was Obama lawd you lot would have hanged him already. Reply August 29, 2019 at 8:12 pm But the Feds can give Trillions to the military , corporations and the elite rich Reply August 30, 2019 at 12:39 am What a dumbfuck Reply August 30, 2019 at 7:42 am It would serve trump right if Doral and maralogo to get hit and then no money to help him Reply August 30, 2019 at 11:29 am Fake News. Reply August 30, 2019 at 12:15 pm Obama did the same things, except more. Whine about this when he takes MORE than Obama Reply August 30, 2019 at 2:18 pm Didn't Obama do the same thing? So what's the big deal? Trump didn't take as much as Obama?https://news.yahoo.com/obama-reallocated-millions-fema-border-174146948.html Reply August 30, 2019 at 4:11 pm #MAGA #KAG2020 #BUILDTHEWALL #TRUMP2020 #AMERICA1ST Reply August 30, 2019 at 8:15 pm Democrats created this mess…they own it…they should shut up and live with it.. Polictal b…s… Reply August 30, 2019 at 8:36 pm Democrats are going to sabotage relief efforts for the hurricane just to make Trump look bad. Reply August 31, 2019 at 1:37 am It must easy being a Republican knowing your party created the 2 biggest economic crisis this country has ever seen and still being labeled as the party of ''fiscal responsibility''. When will republicans follow their own advice and take responsibility for their own actions?Why are we taking funds that will help fellow Americans and use it to build a useless wall ? This is pure fanaticism and a way to bloat the ego of Trump and his supporters. They're too obsessed with themselves and their movement. ''MAGA'' has become more important than America itself. Reply August 31, 2019 at 1:55 am He's a desperate turd. Reply August 31, 2019 at 10:58 am Too bad, when Puerto Rico becomes a state then I will be concerned. Reply September 1, 2019 at 12:34 am Notice.. No reactions from Trump fans. 🤔 Reply September 2, 2019 at 4:10 pm And Now Donald Trump Got The Idea Of Nuking An Hurricane, Like Did He Even Go To School? Or Watched Videos About What Happens When A Nuke Goes Into A Hurricane? Reply September 3, 2019 at 1:19 pm Fake News Trash! That money is like 1% of the FEMA budget! FEMA has plenty of money. Reply September 3, 2019 at 6:25 pm Viejo loco trumpeta, no le importa la gente, le importa su pinche muro para poder reelegirse. Y la gente? "que se joda, mi muro es primero." Reply September 4, 2019 at 5:55 pm Trump is doing the EXACT same thing the Obama did–look it up for yourself, if you can read!!! Where was the out cry when Obama did it??? Pelosi IS just playing politics, because her and the rest of the Dems ARE hypocrites, liers and they ARE the NAZIs.They take pages right out of Hitler's playbook that he used against anyone he deemed a threat to him!!! If you don't agree with them, you ARE called racist, deplorables, and any other things that they can think of!!! Then they send out their brownshirts, called Antifa to harass, threaten and even attack those that aren't with the Dems!!! This IS 1930s Germany when the Jews and any other groups that the NAZIs hated came under attack!!! In my country, the U.S. everyone HAS the right to free speech and NOT to be attacked for saying what they believe or voting for whoever they choose to!!! So now that I have said my piece, when should I expect Crystal Night at my house–like Tucker Carlson got at his house??? I WON'T roll over like the Jews did in Germany during the 1930s–I defend myself and my family!!! If I or any of my love ones come under attack at our home or while we may be out–I WILL DEFEND!!! I do NOT go to the homes of Dems and harass, threaten or try to do them any harm!!! Reply September 4, 2019 at 11:00 pm So now as a hurricane is offshore of America is coming if it hits FEMA won’t be able to help effectively because he wants a wall?? Reply September 11, 2019 at 3:55 am Pelosi needs to stop tweeting the orange moron's actions and impeach. Stop investigating. It's all thrown in our faces everyday, every illegal action. DO YOUR JOB! Reply September 14, 2019 at 4:22 pm MSNBC, YOU AREN'T ACTUALLY QUOTING PELOSI AND SCHUMER ARE YOU? DODO BIRDS FLOCK TOGETHER. GET OVER IT LOSERS, YOU'RE OBSOLETE AND PATHETIC. Reply September 22, 2019 at 2:01 am I hope Trump ends up in jail before 2020 and pays for all of his crimes Reply Comment here Cancel reply Comment Name * Email * Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.